wow,,,,hmm $300...bunch of dopes,, watching too many movies

I guess these 4 wanted to see the inside of a criminal court rather than a civil court. Our thanks to Sgt. Soto for his fine work and closing a very bizzare crime. His usual, excellent, investigative work bears fruit again. And our thanks for the entire WPA for all their efforts and for the great service they provide to Wyckoff residents.

At first the local police were stumped by the actions, they were barking up the wrong tree, but by branching out in their investigation and by leafing through all clues they were able to root out the miscreants, all of whom are reported to be knot heads.

Bill collection is no hobby, it is best left to the professionals.

EXCELLENT Scondo !! I am curious to what will happen when they get to - "the indictable offense will be referred to Bergen County Superior Court". If they get locked up in the Bergen County Jail I do hope they get to room with Bubba. This one is way beyond stupid. I wonder if the invoice is now cancelled ?

Hey John U - Where have you been? Did you read the article in the The Record about Chief Fox?? Another misquote???

Goodbye Tyger Pools of Oakland. No one will ever use you again.

Over $300 tyger pools and sebs touch landscaping is not going to do to well!

Beware of Seb's Touch Landscaping in Oakland (owner Sebastian Wolff) maybe these kids were on drugs

They deserved to get there windows smashed in. They got work done that they did not pay for. U can't just not pay and walk all over these kids because there kids they worked hard and deserved there money

What kind of moron are you John Beck? While I don't know the circumstances of the $300 dispute, no matter what, this "retribution" is way above and beyond what any sane person would do. I hope these men, not kids by the way, do a little time and have to pay restitution!!!

They are men in there 20s not children U must be friends with these losers

That's as may be Mr. Beck. A dispute such as this belongs in small claims court. It should not be taken into hand the way this was and major property destruction is the result. They all will now see that there are legal methods to settle invoice disputes. This method only leads to larger troubles ( as they will find out ) and now that is it so public ( Patch and The Recod, so far ) it most likely will destroy their business(es). And now the personal responsibility comes into play. Frankly, for going outside the civil legal system, I will hope that the criminal legal system has the pay restitution for the damage, have the dig the hole to replant a tree, a heavy fine to the court, court costs, legal fees and then serve some jail time with Bubba. They will also suffer major business loss, which is also appropiate. Who wants to do business with a bunch of vandals ?

The loss of business is very true my moms a customer and was very upset earlier

From their photos they seem like clean shaven, possibly nice young men who may have been trying to start a business. These are all wild assumptions on my part, but at 11:00 p.m. I wonder if alcohol was clouding their judgement...

John Beck.... LOL

If she paid a simple $300 bill this wouldn't of happen. But there also both not right. And this whole article is with false information..... Tyger Pools was one of the best services i had and now there gone.

We don't know the details so u sound stupid And if you know the details you are a friend so please just stop with your nonsense

Who are u to call stupid.

What is it with these young bad-ass Oakland guys causing trouble in our town in recent months???? why don't they cause trouble in their own town instead of always coming here. (if they must cause trouble at all..... :O))

What these kids did wasn't right at all, but being in such an affluent area, the customer should have been able to afford a $300 bill. You can't just not pay your bills. Customers that cheat small businesses are in part to blame as well. There's not much action businesses can take against these types of customers. Taking legal action would cost more in lawyers' fees than what they would be suing for anyway. This happens way too often, and though I don't feel these customers should get away with not paying local businesses for services, I do think these kids took their retribution a little too far.

One does not need a lawyer for small claims court. You bring your documentation and whatever else is evidence. The court will assign and arbitrator first, if that does not work out then it will go to a judge. It is easy and quick. Bergen county does a good job with small claims. I feel there is nothing, nothing, that justifies this type of action. If you are gong to be in a business then you should conduct yourself as a businessman, not a ruffian. This one incident will reflect of each f these young men for a long time and may hurt their businesses severly. Not matter what the excuses will be and I am sure there will be many since we live in a culture that always blames someone else rather than the person responsibile. They now need to all stand up and be men, take the consiquences and to move on. Once that is done there also needs to be forgiveness on BOTH sides.

The bill was going to get paid. Like who are you people to judge. They caused $5500 worth in damage. They could have waited, but they were acting like idiots. I hate the FLOW area and it's residents.

say what you will, seb's touch does amazing work, and employs a crew of 3 caucasians that can talk to and listen to the customer. cant say that for other crews, and their work is crisp. love their work, will continue using them and continue referring them to every one who compliments the work they have done on my estate.. keep up the good work.... SEB'S putting AMERICANS back to work. U.S.A...U.S.A...U.S.A..... way to go

"Fox expressed thanks to the Oakland Police for their assistance, and praised Sgt. Soto for his investigative skills.".......... oh yea, great job sgt soto, great investigation, even though they all turned themselves in the next day. put another check mark in the book for dick tracey. hell of a job wyckoff PD, keep up the fantastic police work so Chief Fox can PRAISE you too!!!

Some of you people are just arguing about the dumbest reasons and if your adults you should really start acting like one..I'm personally good friends with all of them and I just graduated highschool. There's always gonna be two sides to this story and yes I know what they did was over doing it but then again there's no reason why he/she couldn't pay the bill. You can't go around saying "these are Oakland trash kids" if their trash none of them would be the owners of different companies.

Just wondering if anyone else noticed...
"They are" should be spelled "they're" - NOT "there" and not "their".
When do people learn to spell? Just wondering...

Jen is absolutely right! Small businesses get screwed out of money all the time. These kids were just sticking up for themselves. Hopefully that person learned a lesson about bill paying.

Allow me ask, then, CC11. You approve of these methods ? Destruction of $ 5,500.00 of property is ok to be used to collect on a debt ? And that, then, there young men should not be held responsible for their actions ?

@ Jen you are a toe. People are stupid and impatient like those boys and you. Don't judge everyone in Bergen County, because it is so rich too like get over yourself. People need to get out of their bubble and live in the real world.

These guys could have just simply contacted a collection agency to get their money, couldn't they? ....and act like mature adults instead of throwing tantrums like spoiled brat little kids. They only spited themselves because now they all have criminal records and no one will ever hire them to do anything again.

It's not right to not pay a bill. It's even worse to act the way these fools did. I'm sure they did great work because the amount of effort needed to pull off that much vandalism shows they're hard workers. Too bad their next jobs will be picking up trash in orange jumpsuits.

@Wyckoff represent Please stop bragging that you graduated high school. Your grammar is offensive.

These boys reading all of these comments feel bad enough, I've seen these boys work and they are VERY hard working. The work they also do is amazing. Better than most of these landscapers and pool cleaners out there, they care for the work they do. But what they did was wrong and they pushed there luck to far, but the women should have also paid there bill a while ago instead of acting like she never got it for months. All I know is I am going to keep using Seb's Touch as my landscaper. Never had. Any problems with him

Jim and John U unglet, have any of u ran ur own company's? It's not as easy as u think it is... These boys just had the sack to do to what nobody could do, to just stand up for what they think is right. And they though was right just went really far with it. But the women had it coming to her. Hopefully people won't screw small business

Sadly they won't do any time for this crime. Likely they will get fined and probation. Having this all over bergen county news can't be to good for buisness. There buisness again is T Y G E R P O O L S E R V I C E AND S E B'S T O U C H Landscaping in Oakland (owner Sebastian Wolff) ENJOY THE ADVERTISING Boys!!! LOL

"Poland springs" - I happen to own and operate my own company. My average customer monthly invoice is $55K USD. When a customer is 30 days over due we request payment via hard copy letter. At 60 days we again request payment, via hard copy letter, return receipt. At 90 days we shut down the customers services until payment has been made. Should we not receive payment within 120 days we turn the problem over to our lawyer and let him handle it. It is one of the things we have a lawyer for. I do NOT go out and destroy our customers switches or start cutting his fiber optic cables. Then again, I live in a civilized business world where we use full words, captial letters and punctuation also.

Wow the bar lowers another notch. Make sure guys you put this on your resume for your next job, if you can find one. And anybody who can remotely justify this, is insane. Next time, hire the mob to do your work. At least they have a code of honor and make consequences for non-payment clear.

I'm so glad these morons got caught. Hope they have deep pockets! If there was a dispute with a bill, it should have been handled legally...but some people just can't wait for justice. People don't normally dispute bills unless there was something wrong with the service rendered and, judging from this guy's actions, it doesn't sound like he's too smart so he probably either over-billed or simply didn't do the job right. How on earth did they think they'd get away with using a chain saw at 11:00 at night without anyone noticing it? Idiots!

Okay John A I have more respect for u now. Now tell me, If those boys gave this case of 300 dollars to a lawyer and took it to small clams court, honestly! How much would they honestly be putting back in there pocket.... And how much time would be wasted... Again I am not saying what they did was right! But they shouldn't have pushed it that far...

707282, hey thanks for the advertising! And Jim.. Thank you as we'll

"Poland springs", you mightwish t ask yourself, first, how much are they, honestly, puting back in their pockets now ? Was all of this worth $ 300.00 USD ? The debt, now, has reversed, in so many ways, that the $ 300.00 USD becomes nothing. The actual damages, now they each will need representation in the future, if they lose their cases the court costs, the costs of fines, loss of business from the bad press, the list will go on. So who really "won" anything here ? And acting in the way they did puts all of them in a very bad light withi future clients. I would suggest any new client's will be very suspect of their work and poissible conflict resolution. Is that, alone, worth $ 300.00 USD in itself ? To answer your question, using a lawyer they will pay more than the debt is worth. Had they just held themselves in check and discussed the matter with the client in a civilized way theymight have gotten something. OR they might just write off the customer as "too much trouble" and gotten nothing except the satisfaction of never doing business with that person again.

OMG I cannot believe what I am reading (the story and then the comments)...What in God's Name is our World coming to...Men...Boys...NOBODY deserves their property destroyed. WOW!!!

Welcome to the furure Ms. Colucci ! The Barbarians are at the gates with the Vandals not far behind. Civil discourse is dead, writing is dead, punctuation is gone, proper use of words, is gone. Now we just act on the immediate without thought to the ramifications or the future. In this case The Law Of Diminishing Returns seems to apply.

i can only speak for myself but i will continue to use Seb's Touch, By far the best landscaper i ever had and hes only 18 years old! i only wish him the best of luck.

i can also say that he wont be going to jail... like some other people would like to see.... seb also feels really bad. especially after reading most of these pricks comments. the kid made a childish mistake, dont need to make him kill himself!

If Seb gets to the county lockup, I bet he'll certainly be know for his special touch.

I own my own business and have been on the losing side of someone not paying their bill. It sucks and yes it costs time and money to go after these losers but it never crossed my mind to cause them bodily harm or cause damage upon their property.
These are the actions of poorly educated, poorly raised young men. I would praise them for starting their own business' but their actions prove they are not ready to be part of the business world or civilized society.
I find it utterly abhorrent that anyone commenting on this trail would even think that what they did was ok by any standards.
Is it ok to not pay your bill? No, but let the response be equal to the problem!!

While these guys (Seb's Touch Landscaping and Tyger Pools) may be the stupidest contractors of the year, the most brainless are the all the people supporting their actions on here.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the people that would support stupidity like this aren't the type of people who hire out their pool and lawn care :).

By chance, is Jen the mother of one of these boys? She seems to be overlooking the obvious here. They made a mistake, a very stupid mistake at that. Now as adults, they need to pay the price for that. That's it. Let these men redeem themselves without having the mommy figure here fight their battle.

cool thanks! I'm not arguing at all, your obviously too ignorant to see the point. Oh, you responded to my comments, who's the dumb one now?!

These guys did a very dumb thing(more like highschool reaction) and they will be out thousands instead of $300. I hear a lot of good comments about thier work and believe they will survive if thier work ethic is as strong as it sounds. No life was lost(except the poor tree's) and the damage can be repaired. If all they get are fines and community service, so be it. That is what are system decides. They have learned a hard & expensive lesson. I know I have done some stupid things when I was thier age, but that is the process of learning. My parents taught me very well but I thought I knew better. Live & Learn.
P.S. Getting thier chops busted on the Patch is part of the lesson..... Suck it up..
P.P.S. Wood they do it again? I do knot know. We will leaf it for tomorrow.